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Q: Is the Healer's initiation a lie?

A: I am giving you energy to play with superficial lies, ma. If the you think that you having this body is the truth, then healer's initiation is truth. Do you understand? Do you have body? Then healer's initiation is true.

Now what I said is the truth. Before that what I was saying is the ultimate truth, even you having body is a lie. When you reach that state, then you don't need Healer's initiation. Then you are already a Healer.

Now, be very clear, you have to attend the Healer's initiation to become a Healer. When you understand what I am saying and you are fully unclutched, then there is no need for Healer's initiation.

The 'I' that you are carrying in your being indicating that you are connected will be broken, and will disappear by this truth.

Question from a Swami in the audience

First thing, let me answer the first question: How did we get embodied? To tell you honestly I don't know the answer Swamiji, because I can only say how we can liberate ourselves. I'm not able to say how and when we have associated ourselves with this shaft. Maybe when we started thinking, when the society has started teaching that thinking is important, maybe that is the time we created the shaft. I am still not very clear how we started with this concept.

Even at the time of birth we do carry some connection with body, mind and thoughts. So I don't know exactly how we fell into the bondage, but one thing can surely say we can liberate ourselves. That much I am very clear, we can liberate and this is the technology. But I don't know how we got into the trap or how we entered into this trap.

A small story:

One guy says, for 18 years my wife and I were the happiest people on the planet earth'.

Then a friend asked, 'What happened?'

Then we both met each other.

So understand, I don't know when we met each other, I don't know when the shaft and I met each other. I don't know when the chain started, but the chain started, that much I can be sure. And how to come out of the chain, that is one thing I am sure about.

Next question Swamiji, you asked what is the exact technology. I can say after the enlightenment experience I did not start knowing something extra; I stopped or dropped the knowledge that I had. Before the enlightenment I used to think this shaft was alive. I used to connect all the experiences and see. After enlightenment I could see very clearly I am completely comfortable. Thoughts arise and if they want to work the body goes behind them and when the work is done thoughts drop and disappear. The whole thing is happening by itself and I am not bothered about it.

Actually the constant fear or guilt or desire, something that constantly irritates one is not there Swamiji, that is the difference. After enlightenment, the only one thing I can say the constant irritation is not there. As of now, we all carry the constant irritation, from the moment we get out of the bed until the minute we go back to bed; constantly we are carrying that irritation. You are waiting to jump on people. You only need some excuse. You only wait to jump on people. After enlightenment that has disappeared. That is not there.

I can say, two or three things happened permanently. First thing, the inner chattering is not there. In the gap between my words just now, even in that few seconds, there is no word. It was pure space, silence.

The second thing is the idea that the boundary ends here, and there starts the world, that border consciousness is not there. Whenever I have to handle the body, the body moves, the handling happens, but when I relax again that idea to handle is not there. That boundary feeling does not exist.

Third thing, even though body is male body, it's too personal but I can say, the identity male or female has disappeared. The psychological idea that I am male or I am female, that doesn't exist, it is not there.

And fourth thing, constant excitement, everything excites. Even small things give big excitement. Actually, I am the first person who will be enjoying all my photographs, when the CDs released, after the photo shoot or when the books come I am the first person to sit and enjoy. I will sit and play with them for 4 or 5 days.

Some people ask me what is this Swamiji, you are sitting and enjoying your own photograph? I tell them, how does it matter? I don't feel that something should not be enjoyed, everything creates excitement; the constant excitement is there. Even a simple thing creates excitement, constant joy. I need simply some excuse to be excited, that's all. I need some reason, actually no reason at all, to be joyful and to jump around.

Any small thing, some statue or some small Shiva, some small Buddha will trigger off the excitement. The other day that doctor gave me a beautiful Buddha statue. The last two days I am still sitting and playing with it; it is on my bed. At least for two or three days until I break some small piece I will sit and play with that. Once I break something, alright, now I'm bored and I will put it away in one corner.

Every small thing gives excitement. Even the small things fill me with joy and I don't feel bored with things. Otherwise one will get really tired of speaking. In the last 3 years I have done at least 200 Life Bliss Programs personally. One would feel bored but I don't feel bored. Whenever I see a new face I feel excited. Whenever a new person is there to listen I feel the excitement. Constant excitement is there.

Only these four new things happened after enlightenment. I can say these four are the permanent things that happened after enlightenment. The other things were there before enlightenment. All these ideas that I am talking about or the things that I am teaching all these were present before enlightenment. Its not that after enlightenment suddenly everything got downloaded, people believe that way, but it's not true. I read and read and read, whatever I am speaking is all from reading or the intellectual stuff that I acquired. Only these four have become permanent.