Guru-Disciple Relationship🔗

Catching the Master, Missing the Master, Abusing the Master

Catching the Master means, you understand straight away, relating, having vitarka, experiencing, catching the fire and start living it, living enlightenment jivanmukti, this is catching the Master. Catching that fire and having that strong vitarka, catching

that living enlightenment fire and start living it is what I call catching the Master

Missing the Master means being unable to catch that fire, but understanding that Master has compassion, but it is I who am not able to catch it - this is missing the Master. Understanding that you are responsible and you have to catch it. Trying to alter the space inside you is missing the Master.

Abusing the Master means trying to alter the Master, trying to correct the Master, trying to judge him. Abusing the Master is accusing him, saying that he is not giving.

See first thing if you catch the Master that is the ultimate, best. Even if you miss the Master, don't worry you will come back again. But never ever do that abusing the Master; gone, once for all.

Understand, it is like how in the cine field, if a person produces a movie and does not pay the artistes, the artistes will complain and his file will be closed, and that person will not be able to do any further movies. Whichever movie he tries to produce, this file will be there. No artiste will agree to act in his movie. Same way, if you abuse the Master once please understand that I am not threatening you or anything - consciously it gets recorded into your system. To whoever your file goes after that, they will say 'wait'.

Your logic cannot grasp the Guru

Somebody once asked the enlightened Master Nisargadatta Maharaj, 'Bhagawan, you say enlightened beings do not have karma. Then how are you moving your body? You cannot even move your body without having some karma.'

Understand? You need to have some karma, only then you can even move your hand or you can talk or perform any action.

Nisargadata Maharaj said, 'I am not doing anything.'

The disciple said 'No, you don't understand my question. How are you even talking to me? Even that is an action. How are you talking to me if there is no karma?'

Bhagawan said, 'I am not misunderstanding; you are misunderstanding. Again I am telling you, I am not talking to you.' Very difficult to talk to these enlightened guys! I understand, many times, what my disciples go through!

The disciple was really confused, because he is talking and saying I am not talking. Another big problem is that we have to believe they are telling the truth! We can't say, 'Why are you lying?' That is another difficulty.

The disciple asked, 'Bhagawan, please explain that!'

Maharaj says beautifully, 'Understand, because there is a movement in you, you think there is a movement in me. You can never understand that talking can happen without any movement in the inner space. That is why you think that when a sound comes out of my mouth, there is the same kind of a movement in my inner space also.'

Maharaj says 'In you, you never had a moment where your body or your mouth can move without your being moving. In me, I have experienced my body or mouth or even mind or anything can move, but inside me, in my inner space, nothing moves.'

Guru is beyond his thoughts and actions

I wanted all of you to understand, do not think enlightened Masters don't have thoughts. I can say that the inner space is so big, so vast, that the thinking is a negligible part, that's all.

In a normal mind, if you have ten acres of mind, all ten acres are jumping like a zoo. With an enlightened being, he has a million acres; only ten acres is zoo. In million acres, can you consider ten acres being a zoo as something disturbing, some movement? No! It is negligible; it is practically not there.

That is why Ramana Maharshi says that normal persons carry the idea, 'I am the body', but an enlightened being feels, 'I am also the body.' It's not that the idea that I am body disappears; it just expands - I am also the body. This is also a part. So I have nowhere to go. Understand: having such a strong, clear peace inside you that even your thoughts cannot disturb it - that is enlightenment.

udging the Masters based on their physical movement is the worst thing that can happen to a disciple, because he will judge the Master's action from his own idea. If he does that particular action what logic will go through in his head he thinks that same logic is going through in his head. Especially the people who live around few days or few years or who claim I know THE SUPREME PONTIFF OF HINDUISM BHAGAWAN SRI NITHYANANDA PARAMASHIVAM for so many years.

That's a big problem, that's a big problem. I always tell people, these people who claim I know THE SUPREME PONTIFF OF HINDUISM BHAGAWAN SRI NITHYANANDA PARAMASHIVAM for so many years, what do they know? Nothing! First of all they don't know themselves, and they think they know me. They think with their logic, the logic with which their head functions with the same logic my head is also functioning. If the same logic, with the same logic if my head is also functioning, then why I am sitting here and why you are sitting there. There is no logic which you can understand logically with which Master's system functions.

Guru is just your reflection

There is no logic with which you can understand logically how the Master's system functions.

But slowly, you say same way only he walks, same way he talks, same way he eats, same way he laughs; sometimes much more than us and almost looks same. You start thinking the inner space, inner programming is also same. That is where you miss. That is where you miss. Inner programming is not same. That is where Nisargadatta Maharaj says I am not talking to you. He says what you understand by the word

talking is not happening in me. Just I am reflecting the movements which is happening in you. Whatever you want to see you are seeing it in this body like a mirror reflecting.