Q: Why are there problems of jealousy, Hindu people, or non Hindu people, why still these problems?
A: Because of this basic problem of creating your identity and developing the identity and trying to develop the identity.
Q: Is it your identity that makes you steal or commit murders?
A: Yes, naturally. You want to increase the length or breadth or volume of the identity that you are showing to the outer world. So, if you have vested interest in somebody dying you may expand that identity, meaning you may try to kill. By stealing if you feel you will expand the identity you will steal. That's all.
Q: But how can that be pleasurable?
A: See, for you it may not be pleasure, for them it is a pleasure. You can't understand; nothing can be done. I also can't understand; nothing can be done.
Q: In the outer world, if you are asked, who are you? You say your name. In the inner world , at the same time, can you answer I am unclutched?
A: Even if you answering, 'I am unclutched' it is not going to help. If you are experiencing you are unclutched then it is going to help. Otherwise you will make that word one more mantra. Like how these Vedantis have made this tatvamasi one more mantra. All these Vedantis, you can see the whole day they will be sitting and repeating tatvamasi 10 000 times. This is supposed to be experienced. I am unclutched should become an experience. Understand the truth and let it be experience. Not repeating of mantra.
Q: Surrendering to the guru or the divine, is it the same as being unclutched?
A: I can say just be unclutched, do not bother if it is the same as surrendering and all. Because the more words you create, the more complications.